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foreign policy doesn't tend to be one of the top issues for many voters, even after 9/11, so it won't necessarily help him on the economic front. so i don't know how much it would ultimately yield him, but he's been very tough on president obama on foreign policy, hearing him say, again, something along the lines of what you just plays wouldn't surprise me a bit. >> beth fouhy, thank you so much, and anne kornblut, always a pleasure, and so much so, we'll see you a little bit later this hour, right? >> yes. >> thank you. >>> inking the deal. nfl refs are voted today the result of that vote, on the other side of this break. and a little bit later, the day wall street and capitol hill collided. we'll look back at when the dow took a 700-point dive. that's ahead in our flashback. >>> first, though, with the lead in the polls, can president obama cruise until election day? what might trip up the incumbent, next. this is msnbc, the place for politics. [ male announcer ] let's say you need to take care of legal matters. wouldn't it be nice if there was an easier, less-expensive option than
foreign policy doesn't tend to be one of the top issues for many voters, even after 9/11, so it won't necessarily help him on the economic front. so i don't know how much it would ultimately yield him, but he's been very tough on president obama on foreign policy, hearing him say, again, something along the lines of what you just plays wouldn't surprise me a bit. >> beth fouhy, thank you so much, and anne kornblut, always a pleasure, and so much so, we'll see you a little bit later this...
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we're talking foreign policy. this is an area where the president, with regard to the election, felt pretty comfortable. and felt like he wouldn't have -- there wouldn't necessarily be an opening for the romney camp. does this give the romney camp a legitimate opening? >> no. i don't think so. because i've been ambassador in a region where it's been very volatile. these are bureaucratic decisions. and ambassador stevens made the decision to go to benghazi. what problem may emerge here, he went to benghazi with inadequate security. we have to understand that our embassies are not protected and our ambassadors are not protected by the marines or by u.s. personnel all the time. they're protected by the local government officials that provide that security. and chris was known as someone who didn't like the envelope of security around him. i think the real issue here is not so much whether or not the president or the administration was at fault, but whether or not the senior management level at the state department di
we're talking foreign policy. this is an area where the president, with regard to the election, felt pretty comfortable. and felt like he wouldn't have -- there wouldn't necessarily be an opening for the romney camp. does this give the romney camp a legitimate opening? >> no. i don't think so. because i've been ambassador in a region where it's been very volatile. these are bureaucratic decisions. and ambassador stevens made the decision to go to benghazi. what problem may emerge here, he...
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so far they feel very confident in their foreign policy and they're saying national security is one of their biggest strengths. >> okay. felicia, here's john kerry. he signed a letter with other senate intelligence committee members for more info on the libya matter. take a listen to this. >> the republicans are working overtime to try to exploit a very normal, run of the course, administrative letter that we agreed to on a bipartisan basis in our committee, simply to get some additional questions put in front of the state department. >> he goes on to say it's all political now. i mean, is this going to become a campaign issue? >> absolutely. you're already seeing it become a big issue on the campaign. particularly on the republican side. of course. the problem, though, is that the house and the senate both adjourned for the rest of this year, up until after the election, earlier this month, and so if this is going to be an issue that republicans wield against the obama ticket it's going to be one that they're going to have to do on the campaign trail. now, that spelled a problem for m
so far they feel very confident in their foreign policy and they're saying national security is one of their biggest strengths. >> okay. felicia, here's john kerry. he signed a letter with other senate intelligence committee members for more info on the libya matter. take a listen to this. >> the republicans are working overtime to try to exploit a very normal, run of the course, administrative letter that we agreed to on a bipartisan basis in our committee, simply to get some...
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he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he doesn't, what ammunition does he have to actually have a good showing? >> i'm told there are examples of elections turning on debates, president bush for example started gaining on al gore when they faced off in 2000. is it usually the case that debates are quite the kind of game-changer that everybody thinks this one has to be for romney to do anything successfully in november? >> no, it's not. the historical data shows that i think we sort of exaggerate the role of debates. i would tip my hat to t
he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a...
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can any of these foreign policy questions and whether or not the administration bungled the response after the attacks, the horrible tragedy in benghazi, or the israeli relationship and whether mitt romney is correct that the administration has thrown israel under the bus, can any of these foreign policy questions come into it or does this have to be under the format strictly domestic policy. >> i think only if chip herrer asks the question. if romney were to launch an attack on libya or launch an attack on the israeli question, he would look like he was trying to score political points in a debate where he's supposed to be talking about the economy. one of the rules i have for the debates you don't fight with the moderator and you don't invade the other person's space. >> a violation of the newt gingrich rule which was to completely go after maria bartiromo and john harwood at the cnbc debate in michigan and make -- make them the target. >> he was looking for right wing base voters who hate the media. i don't think that's the situation here. when you fight with the moderator and som
can any of these foreign policy questions and whether or not the administration bungled the response after the attacks, the horrible tragedy in benghazi, or the israeli relationship and whether mitt romney is correct that the administration has thrown israel under the bus, can any of these foreign policy questions come into it or does this have to be under the format strictly domestic policy. >> i think only if chip herrer asks the question. if romney were to launch an attack on libya or...
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thomas pickering as you know, a very respected leader in foreign policy, is heading an investigation to figure this out. nothing is more important. you know, the middle east as we know is a very, very dangerous place. and we have to keep our guard up even as we are engaged in that region of the world in bringing many of these new countries into really the democratic sphere. this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations in libya that followed that terrorist ait tack, with 30,000 in the street, you know, demanding that those militias and those, you know, terrorists and islamic militias are disbanded. that gives us, you know, great hope for, you know, what can happen in a place like libya. >> thanks so much, robert gibbs, see you in denver, be there tomorrow. >> thanks, andre ya. >> up next, the testy senate debate in massachusetts. and still ahead, mitt romney's debate strategy. we'll talk to his top adviser kevin madden. join us in denver at the site of the first presidential debate. among our guests obama dep
thomas pickering as you know, a very respected leader in foreign policy, is heading an investigation to figure this out. nothing is more important. you know, the middle east as we know is a very, very dangerous place. and we have to keep our guard up even as we are engaged in that region of the world in bringing many of these new countries into really the democratic sphere. this is the first time they've been able to elect their leaders. i was heartened as many were to watch the demonstrations...
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here's what he said slamming the president on foreign policy. by failing to maintain the elements of our influence and stepping away from our alleys, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand an american policy that lacks resolve can provoke aggression. the arab spring presented an opportunity to help move millions of people from oppression to freedom, but it also presented grave risks. we needed a strategy for success, but the president offered none. and now he seeks to down play the significance of the calamities of the past few weeks. steve, does he have a point? >> no. what's the old saying? that dog won't hunt. i don't think you can criticize barack obama on his foreign policy achievements. it's a tough world out there. it's complicated. things don't always happen the way we want them to, but they have done a terrific job of handling very difficult situations. they killed osama bin laden. i think they have a record to stand on that the president can proudly go to the debates and argue wi
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, but foreign policy is looming large as well. i want to turn to richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. there are now 50 plus insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you can tell us on the latest attack? >> reporter: there's been another attack. it took place yesterday. but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle control point, and two afghan soldiers came up. they were speaking to the americans at this checkpoint. and then suddenly one of these afghan soldiers pulled out a weapon, opened fire, killed one american soldier, killed another american contractor, and then another americans in the area opened fire, killing at least three of the afghans. and this is a major problem according to statistics. at least 20% of all u.s. combat deaths this year are a result of these insider attacks. and there have been orders issued to try and separate u.s. and afghan forc
, but foreign policy is looming large as well. i want to turn to richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. there are now 50 plus insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you can tell us on the latest attack? >> reporter: there's been another attack. it took place yesterday. but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle...
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policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting rights act of 1965 and federal recognition of same-sex marriage. next week the supreme court is expected to hear arguments on the affirmative action case which is based on a texas student's claim that she was denied admission to the university of texas because she's white. and police in tennessee are searching for two missing children, a 9-year-old and her 7-year-old brother. both children mysteriously vanished after their grandparents home was burned to the ground south of nashville last sunday. they were originally presumed dead in the fire. police issued an amber alert. no leads. >>> and our "news nation"
policy, which is hands down much more popular than any recent president in time, that foreign policy is not being effective and the president has a clear advantage in the campaign on this issue. >> sw joel ruben thank you for your time. thank you. >> the supreme court begins a new term today and it tops our look at stories around the news nation. the nation's highest court is taking on the high profile issues among them affirmative action in school admissions process, the voting...
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i think obama has done pretty well on foreign policy pip don't think he's made bad calls. you can argue about it, but he's made tough calls on using these drones. he's had to kill a lot of people. he's been tough-minded about it. my guess is that eisenhower would have approved of the job that obama's done so far. i think romney, you know, he's never been president. how do you know? being governor of massachusetts doesn't really prepare few your that. romney seems to be a pretty sober-minded guy. he has reasonably good judgment as far as we can tell as a businessman. it's hard to know. the thing about the presidency is until you are president, you don't know. nothing really prepares you for it. >> thank you so much. appreciate your time this sunday afternoon. >> thank you, craig. >>> and part of a bridge collapse during 405 construction. is carmageddon a sequel for california drivers? is. >>> plus a lot of new polls are out. we're checking who's in the lead in ohio and iowa. we'll bring it to you on the other side of this break. you're watching msnbc, in case you hadn't hea
i think obama has done pretty well on foreign policy pip don't think he's made bad calls. you can argue about it, but he's made tough calls on using these drones. he's had to kill a lot of people. he's been tough-minded about it. my guess is that eisenhower would have approved of the job that obama's done so far. i think romney, you know, he's never been president. how do you know? being governor of massachusetts doesn't really prepare few your that. romney seems to be a pretty sober-minded...
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romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> tracie, we appreciate it. thank you. >>> nato forces in afghanistan say three international service members and their translator were killed in a suicide bombing in the eastern part of the country this morning. this as the war in afghanistan reached a grim milestone sunday with a death of the 2,000th u.s. se
romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >>...
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policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the economic projection, the values projection and foreign policy pro jex. >> let me ask you about the deb krzyzewskied. it's going to be six segments. the moderator has some ability to let it go and bring the conversation more broadly. breathe more than we've seen in the past. does that favor one person or the other? >> no, i don't think so. i think as you know, who goes first was determined by coin flip and there's a slight advantage of having your opponent go first. in the opening, romney won the coin toss because president obama goes first and that me
policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the...
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in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you know, in pakistan and the pakistanis are unwilling or unable, we will do what we have to do. something to that effect. i mean, it was very effective. and so i think that president obama has a record in a debate. we know who he is. he means what he says. and i think that this is the failure of romney's campaign, throughout the entire narrative of this campaign, we've never been able to really know who this guy is. he has to play tonight. >> i think chris's point about emotional intelligence is really important. but i will say this. training can get people to places they haven't been before. when president obama began, everyone said he was too
in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you know, in pakistan and the pakistanis are unwilling or unable, we will do what we have to do. something...
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americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that they're learning more, that their initial instiblgt -- they didn't know the situation was initially, that they've explained it better as they've done intelligence assessments, but it raises the more fundamental question which is why was the consulate not secure? how was it that security issues, as opposed to their stories afterward, these are american lives at stake in an unstable region, what are the intelligence failures? what were the security failures? those are fundamental questions. >> there were intelligence failu failures, there were warnings, mark halperi
americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that...
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>> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's weapons? >> romney's weapon is still that executive card. bain and all, he has to say i've gotten it done in business. i know the liabilities attached to the profile, tamron, but that's the bed he chose and he has to have a private sector-like fix for the economy. >> no time limits on answers, moderator's discretion, domestic policy, at least 90 minutes devoted to the economy. we're going to talk about a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll that looks at this debate. do you buy what chris christie said yesterday, this is a game-changer come
>> foreign policy. if you said a couple years ago i'd sit here saying the democratic candidate's strong suit is foreign policy, that would take me by surprise. >> the first debate is domestic policy. >> you're absolutely right. i would stick with the jobs numbers and talk about how we're not where we want to be relatively to 100 thousand plus being gained per month but it's better than an 800,000 job loss. people need to be reminded of the numbers. >> and romney's...
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the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that somehow or other only the first debates matter. i think the other debates will have big audiences. i'm through with the expectations game. i think vice president biden will do very well next week. i think the president will bring his best game to these next two debates. this guy is a fourth quarter player. we saw it on health care and in the 2008 primaries. when the going to gets tough, when the pressure is on, he really steps up to it. i think barack obama whether do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this,do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this, we all play it as a game. if you were an average person sitting at home last night, you said, wait a minute, i suspect that guy romney's going to increase my taxes. wait a minute, i'm a senior. it will cost me $600 more for prescription drugs. i think those are the things that are important to voters and that's why i think the pres
the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that somehow or other only the first debates matter. i think the other debates will have big audiences. i'm through with the expectations game. i think vice president biden will do very well next week. i think the president will bring his best game to these next two debates. this guy is a fourth quarter player. we saw it on health care and in the 2008...
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romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is probably what we got from senator john mccain at the republican convention when he said that the afghanistan war just shouldn't end. he also thinks that the iraq war shouldn't have ended. so i'm not sure that it's a politically viable position. even if it is an internally cogent one from the senator. for this year's nominee, it's apparently just not going to happen. not unless he starts it now. 40 days out, mitt romney did get as close as he gets to talking about the issue today. in that he spoke before a group of veterans and talked
romney on foreign policy and the wars. and he is -- he's right there when he says that we don't know what mr. romney would do if he became president. mr. romney has said recently and vaguely that he supports what president obama is doing in afghanistan in terms of there being a timeline for leaving but he has also said he was against a timeline for leaving in the past. so really who knows? he's not even trying. the closest we've gotten to any competing cogent republican position on the war is...
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romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put him on the trail. >> it's amazing you how that turn-around in this relationship. what's going through bill clinton's head? >> we can only imagine. don't fill in the blanks. >> shameless plugs. >> we have a good story today about how the problem with mitt romney is actually mitt romney and less about the campaign. >> mitt romney said it himself. >> chris christie best job with his ratings in his term. >> and for my colleague? >> of course, saturday and sunday 10:00 a.m. to noon. we're going to talk about this week in voter suppression and more education nation on the show. >> thank you all. this is the daily rundown. we'll see you on monday. i think i'll be in washington and then we go to colorado. coming up next is chris jansing. good-bye. [ male announcer ] when a major hospital wanted to provide better employee benefits while balancing the company's bottom line, their very first word was... [ t
romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put him on the trail. >> it's amazing you how that turn-around in this relationship. what's going through bill clinton's head? >> we can only imagine. don't fill in the blanks. >> shameless plugs. >> we have a good story today about how the problem with mitt romney is actually mitt romney and less about the campaign. >>...
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for example you have economic crises and foreign policy crises. if you play poker, you're used to playing your hand well. you catch a lucky card or you play bad and catch the card of your life. you used to think about improbability. you are calmer when you watch the he ebb and flow of polls an political news. >> you talk about weather forecasting has improved over the years, and the glitch that sort of caused the ibm computer to beat gary in the 1997 chess game. what are the worst at predicting? what do we get wrong more than anything else? >> in general the field of economic prediction is a pretty bad example. for example, in december of 2007, most people in the "wall street journal's" forecasting panel, 45 distinguished economists said we would not go into a recession over the next year. in fact, it turned out we were already in recession by december 2007. it was later revealed through the data. when we're in a recession we don't know it half the time and can't predict the macro economy more than six months in advance. you had all kinds of probl
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policy and national security. and he has proven adept at walking the tight rope at great heights by refusing to take a stand on any issue of any substance at any time this entire campaign cycle. the problem with this clown show is that while it's been entertaining, the ticket price is also very high. as the gop verges on going from grand old party to tired old side show americans are denied a functioning two-party system, a robust debate that is at the very heart of our democracy. so, governor romney, kindly set aside the youtube clips, the you didn't build thats, and the conservative dog whistles that guess what all of us can hear, put up a good fight, an honest fight, in the end politics may still be a circus, but the country deserves more than just peanuts. thanks again to kurt, richard, karen and michael. that is all for now. i will see you back here tomorrow for post-debate analysis at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific when joined by savannah guthrie, former governor ed rendell, professorer michael eric dyson a
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over the past three and a half years, a failed foreign policy, and it's just maddening. i know you probably can't say it on tv in the same way that i did but every conservative i talked to, they're just so frustrated. >> i think they're frustrated in part. this is the difference between clinton and frankly the last -- every republican nominee since reagan. i mean, reagan was a democrat and a tv star and movie star who got communicating. regular democrats get corporate meetings. i mean regular republicans. there is almost this republican consultant culture that says your job is to go raise money and i'll buy clever ads. as a result you don't get, i mean no president has been more vulnerable to an aggressive opponent than barack obama. for the reason you're saying. somebody who could just calm lane methodically -- >> you said something fascinating. you talked about a consultant culture, something that craig shirley and other, i call them true conservatives, true reagan conservatives, gingrich conservatives, people who grew the majority in the 1980s and '90s they believe th
over the past three and a half years, a failed foreign policy, and it's just maddening. i know you probably can't say it on tv in the same way that i did but every conservative i talked to, they're just so frustrated. >> i think they're frustrated in part. this is the difference between clinton and frankly the last -- every republican nominee since reagan. i mean, reagan was a democrat and a tv star and movie star who got communicating. regular democrats get corporate meetings. i mean...